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 Post subject: Signing up with an AOL or Hotmail or Live email address
PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:33 am 
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IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM, READ THIS.

Signing up with an AOL email address may well not work because for some reason AOL doesn't like email from wolf-faction.com. Or from the hosting servers in general.

I'll look into it but I don't know when or if this will be resolved.

I'll skip my (long and vitriolic) anti-AOL rant but it would be worth using a different address for interaction with this forum.


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 Post subject: Re: Signing up with an AOL email address
PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:13 am 
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Ive never liked AOL... The worst part though is that I dont know why...

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 Post subject: Re: Signing up with an AOL email address
PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:46 am 
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AOL is the devil incarnate. I wouldn't dream of ever using anything connected with it. I guess I'll do the rant for you DM.....

The biggest reason goes back to a friends computer in the days when Internet access was primarily from a modem. My friend had set up his AOL account and used it for a while with only minor issues. He then wanted to change providors (as is his right) so I helped him uninstall AOL and install his new software. We tried to connect to the new providor to confirm all was as it should be. The connection was made but after about 3 minutes, the uninstalled AOL managed to pop up, disconnect the other providor and tried to reconnect itself, all without any confirmation windows or any way to stop it. In my book, this is totally unacceptable. As much as I searched to uninstall the remnants of AOL (and I'm not a novice with PCs, I even looked through the ini files for anything), I couldn't find any and we had to resort to wiping the system and reinstalling windows from scratch.

Based on this, I will never use anything related to AOL, I like to know whats on my computer and be able to remove it if I wish.

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 Post subject: Re: Signing up with an AOL email address
PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:54 am 
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AOL regularly sold it's account lists to anyone, hence everyone got porn-spam, including all the old ladies and little kiddy-winks! Shocking!

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 Post subject: Re: Signing up with an AOL email address
PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:00 pm 
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They still do...

And if you send an email TO an aol address, your email address run's the risk of being harvested.

One good reason to delete AOL from existance..

p's'

AOL = Compuserve same rules, same **** company

At one point AOL/Compuserve Europe was owned by Bertlesmann DE, not sure if they still are though.

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 Post subject: Re: Signing up with an AOL email address
PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:15 pm 
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Doesnt that go against the Data Protection Act? I mean its plainly stated that your details, including email adress may not be shared without your authorization.

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 Post subject: Re: Signing up with an AOL email address
PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:19 pm 
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Like AOL care?

Here's a story, may be true.

Apparently AOL claimed it had over 40% customer satisfaction.

It was also discovered that (in the USA) perhaps 40% of their customerbase didn't actually have a computer.
Really, some had just signed up cos they thought it was something they ought to have... whatever it was!


Anyway, as I say, this is not actually a moral issue, it's a technical one due to AOL bouncing our registration emails.


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 Post subject: Re: Signing up with an AOL email address
PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:26 pm 
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Either way, they can be sued for that and if enough people (which apparently there is) put up a complaint to the relevant authorities, they should be able to be stopped, right?

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 Post subject: Re: Signing up with an AOL email address
PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:17 pm 
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Not entirely...

the law's on email address harvesting are different for each country, so it depends on the location the addresses are actually harvested.

Ever wondered why it takes so long to get an email to an aol or compuserve address? ecause they all go through a variety of countries.

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 Post subject: Re: Signing up with an AOL email address
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Luckyly Iv never had to send an email to an AOL account...

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 Post subject: Re: Signing up with an AOL email address
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dependant on the country harvesting the information it may have no effect for example...the data protection act only applies in certain countries (ever had someone in pakistan call you?its because it doesnt apply there as far as i remember from a level computer programming) and even if it did do you honestly think our government would chase them that far?they wouldnt even chase them to the end of your street lol

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 Post subject: Re: Signing up with an AOL email address
PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:46 pm 
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Be advised.

hotmail and Windows Live don't seem to like us any more.
You probably can't register with them.

Also you can't get any notification messages.
If you're not gettinf notifications, please stop asking for them on such accounts.
All you do is fill my inbox with failure messages.
Apache & Spike I'm looking at you.

(this will not annoy me enough to try and find a fix for hotmail etc accounts, but may annoy me enough that I just stop notifications being sent. FYI )


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 Post subject: Re: Signing up with an AOL email address
PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:03 am 
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Hotmail and MSN Fixing - Step 1 - http://www.spamhaus.org/lookup.lasso

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 Post subject: Re: Signing up with an AOL email address
PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:49 am 
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Which predictably shows that spamhaus have no problem with the server or domain.

As DM said, it's the hotmail/MSN filters that have decided to take issue.

Anyone with such an email account should be able to resolve the problem themselves by adding the address webadmin@wolf-faction.com to their address book, which should prevent it from being filtered out.


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 Post subject: Re: Signing up with an AOL email address
PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:43 am 
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Mostly all "550 SC-001" I think.

Which the opinion of the internet does seem to be "Micro$oft are arses!"


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 Post subject: Re: Signing up with an AOL email address
PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:13 am 
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Rich wrote:
Which predictably shows that spamhaus have no problem with the server or domain.

As DM said, it's the hotmail/MSN filters that have decided to take issue.

Anyone with such an email account should be able to resolve the problem themselves by adding the address webadmin@wolf-faction.com to their address book, which should prevent it from being filtered out.


Which leads us generally on to step 2..

https://support.msn.com/eform.aspx?prod ... mts&scrx=1

(with less rigmarole than step 1b which is mundanely browsing through http://mail.live.com/mail/troubleshooting.aspx and getting nowhere.

Successfully completing Step 2 should in theory solve the problem for good...

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 Post subject: Re: Signing up with an AOL email address
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I've had a look at all that before and basically, as I don't own the server, they're not interested in helping.

However, the method I mentioned above (and re-phrased again below) is simple, easy and currently guaranteed to work.

Anyone with a hotmail / windows live account is able to resolve the problem themselves by adding the email address webadmin@wolf-faction.com to their address book. This prevents it from being filtered out.


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 Post subject: Re: Signing up with an AOL email address
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Bump

Remember Windows Live hates us too.


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 Post subject: Re: Signing up with an AOL or Hotmail or Live email address
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Add gmail (and presumably googlemail) to the difficult list!


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